Post Ep Dish - 5.07 - Quantico Closure

[elrhiarhodan]

ETA: It's the seventh, not the eighth episode, thank you to all who pointed that out.

*Bounces* New White Collar and more importantly, Peter-Centric. Here's to hoping that it's minimal on the mythology. But long enough for Neal to get semi-nekkid and maybe completely horizontal with Rebecca.

Ah - this is Willie's directorial debut.

I'm sort of tired tonight. Long day in a series of long days - mostly my fault. I'm thinking that rather than do a complete squee of consciousness, I'm going to watch, pick out some high and low points and comment briefly. Does that work?



The Mythology Why should we care about the Mosconi Codex? Is it just a ploy to get Neal and Rebecca in bed? If so, that works for me. But in a way and for the record, I'm troubled by the whole relationship between them. She calls him "Agent Caffrey". He needs to fix that sooner than later. It's Kate, redux. Only worse, because I like Rebecca.

And apparently, the codex is Ellen's key all over again. And at least they didn't chase the answer for a half-dozen episodes. I feel like I should know that building. Hmmm - anyone out there that can help me out?

Peter and Jill, the old flame. She's a blonde, and it's pretty obvious that's why it didn't work out. There's something about her, I don't trust. She seems a little off to me - like she's playing an angle. But then, I'm the suspicious type. And yet, but the end we find out she's just another agent doing her job, nothing at all interesting.

The Case of the Week. Was there one? Or was it simply a Neal-Elizabeth bonding exercise, refreshing of their relationship. I definitely don't mind that. But what I do not like is Elizabeth inserting herself into the scene - it's stupid and foolish. It didn't work in Neighborhood Watch and it doesn't work here. I do understand why she did it, though - she was trying to prove that she's just as good as the old flame. Unnecessary but understandable.

On a professional note, Peter not talking to El about the case is 100% correct. Classified is classified and need to know doesn't extend to spouses. Peter doesn't usually deal with classified material, so El isn't accustomed to being closed out.

Siegel's Murder. Love how Neal and Jones worked together (and how Peter was willing to give them the new toy). The takedown of the fake FBI agent worked really well. I didn't think for a second that this moron killed Siegel, but maybe he saw it go down.

It's actually very satisfying to see Peter so troubled by Siegel's death. The show has brushed off character deaths way too easily - Kate, Adler (and yes Adler was a bad guy, but Peter killed him). This storyline gives the season a lot more gravitas.

The card in Siegel's ID case is weird. Cooper3 and a bloodstain? On something on the INSIDE of the case. Did the killer (and I'm presuming Hagen) put that there?

Fast Track to Washington. Don't really feel convinced that Peter's all that eager for DC. He can't give up field work and he can't give up Neal. How the hell is he going to function in the epicenter of bureaucracy?

Things I need fic for:

1 - Neal and Clinton dissecting Peter's body language and Neal reads it like a book. Except that he gets is all wrong.


2 - Elizabeth did a very good job pretending to be a pro, picking up that guy. I want hooker fic now.

3 - "You fall in love with Peter, you are in love. I can't imagine those feelings ever going away." Neal is only pretending to be so skeptical.

4 - Peter and Elizabeth picking Satchmo up from the breeder.

5 - A WWII A/U, where Peter and Neal are Navy fliers stationed at Pearl Harbor.

What did you like about this episode? What did you not like? Or were you simply indifferent to it. As always, the Post Ep Dish is a place for you to park those thinky and not-so-thinky thoughts.

Comments

I make no promises for this to be good

[fbf]

I haven't, due to scheduling, been able to see the show all season, so who knows how this will turn out.

4 - Peter and Elizabeth picking Satchmo up from the breeder.

It was Elizabeth's idea. Neal has always loved Satchmo, from the first moment they met. Sometimes, Peter thought that if he and the dog were stuck in a burning building Neal would get the dog first, but those kind of thoughts only happened after one of their 'disagreements'. Mostly Peter knew that Neal would figure out how to get them both out and then yell at Peter for putting Satchmo in that kind of position. Peter tried not to think about a young Neal wistfully looking into pet shop windows and bending down to pet every dog that walked by. Thinking those thoughts made something curl in his gut, something that he chose not to examine more closely for reasons he refused to acknowledge.

Besides, it was Elizabeth's idea and if a puppy gave Neal a reason to sick around, well Peter was all for that.

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and there it is, the first piece of fanfic I have written in forever. *headsdesk* Please accept the sentiment and ignore crappy composition.

Re: I make no promises for this to be good

[elrhiarhodan]

Thank you so very, very much! It's not just good but WONDERFUL

It's lovely and achy and very sweet in the best kind of way.

I am honored that you've begun writing fanfic again - if just for my prompt.

[doctor-fangeek.livejournal.com]

More after I read the whole Dish, but it's St. George's church, across the street from the North side of Stuyvesant Square. :-)

[elrhiarhodan]

Thank you!

[doctor-fangeek.livejournal.com]

You're very welcome! Though I think I got my compass wrong & it's more northwest. :-) The street is Rutherford Place.

[miri-thompson.livejournal.com]

Ack! I missed this comment. Sorry Doc! I posted the loc below too. Now I feel redundant, lol.

[ultracape.livejournal.com]

For one of the few times since White Collar began airing, I was actually able to watch it when it broadcast the first time.

I really loved that Peter gave the case to Neal and Jones. Though we see Jones running ops, we hardly ever see him working with Neal and so this was great. Of course the reading of the body language was just wonderfully fun as they compared notes. And then Peter yelling at them to get back to work, terrific.

I didn't like the blond either. She seemed kind of off to me. Yet, while certainly not as charming, she was showing up in Peter's life much like Neal had done. Big difference, Neal has respect for the Burke marriage and I got the feeling she would have no compunctions about breaking it if she could.

Okay, so we learn that Mosconi actually did write chapter 13. I am still of the opinion that "the greatest wealth in the world," is not material and the scene where Neal shows Rebecca the window and they kiss at that point, well, that just makes me think that more.

Cooper3 and the bloodstain is a mystery but then, it's supposed to be.

One thing I truly loved about this was that the nature of Peter's mistrust in Neal has changed dramatically. He gave the investigation into Siegel's death to Jones and Neal because he trusted them. Peter actually said that even though he qualified it with Neal. He knew that Neal did not know anything about how Siegel died, or why. He may be involved, and Neal may and probably still does feel guilty despite his declarate a couple of weeks ago, but he does feel quilty about it.

Also, despite how foolish it was for Elizabeth to get involved in the case, and thrust herself into it, and I really thought we were going to see her or Peter or Neal get seriously hurt in some way, it was pure Elizabeth and I loved her for it.

[elrhiarhodan]

I, too, loved that Peter trusted Neal and Jones with catching the fake FBI badge user/potential murderer. Peter trusts Neal to ultimately do the right thing, and I think that showed when he told Neal that he's pretty much onto him - finding the FBI pen at the chiropractors office.

I really disliked how Jill inserted herself into Peter's life - she's an FBI agent and she has to have some sort of respect for process. Tracking Peter down after hours at a restaurant really seemed bizarre when she had no problems with going into the office and meeting with him.

And you're right, I think that if Peter had shown the slightest interest, she would have done her best to capitalize on it.

[pjna3.livejournal.com]

Lots of mixed feelings about this episode. I agree with everything you wrote above.

OK, I keep trying to write something coherent but evidently I'm too tired tonight.

I just had to come comment about the opening scene between Peter & Neal. Peter talks about his anniversaries with El and immediately transitions into his anniversaries with Neal, and Neal even says that the second time, "you gave me jewelry". See, they ARE married! \o/

[elrhiarhodan]

I agree - I thought it very amusing that Peter includes his arrest of Neal in his list of important anniversaries. First meeting with El, getting Satchmo from the breeder, arresting Neal.

And yes, he gave Neal jewelry on their second date.

[moonflowerkc.livejournal.com]

Hee. Tomorrow (Dec. 7) is their anniversary.

[(Anonymous)]

By the way this is episode 5.7.

[elrhiarhodan]

Got it and corrected. No need to post anon, don't mind a PM or even a public comment.

[tuppence1.livejournal.com]

I don't even know.

I liked Jill, I liked the Peter focus, I loved El and Neal as a team (I always do.)

Too bad it was ruined by the innate underlying sexism, which I do *not* ordinarily expect from White Collar. More fool me, apparently.

Dear god, the SHOCK. Peter's ex isn't married! It *must* be because she's hung up on him. Not because some women actually do want to put their career first. And it must be because "what guy would put up with her" (yes I know she was joking. The scene changed and she let that be the last word.) Not because she doesn't have the goddamn time or it's hard to balance two careers. And yes El, of course she's spent the last 20 years pining, because nobody could possibly get over a past relationship if they're (horror of horrors,) not married. Dear god, where is my fainting couch!

What actually helped was that while it probably isn't meant to be written this way, El's genuine smugness about her relationship with Peter may be her biggest character flaw, and it informs her actions. So I'm not irritated with El for this episode. I'm irritated with the writer. New writer; he's dropped to the bottom of my list.

But it did have El drinking wine with Mozzie which was long overdue, Neal looking at Peter very worriedly not because of his own issues but because Neal cares and is worried for him, Peter continuing to like women who can challenge him in every way, Jones and Neal being Cagney and Lacey (awesome), El being quick on her feet, and some nice in character bad-assery at the end: El distracting, Neal grabbing a knife and stealthily cutting Peter's bonds, Jill using her chair to disarm her guy, and Peter finding his hidden gun. So not a total loss. But in my bottom five of the series, probably bottom 3.

I miss Diana. And I miss Sara.

[meeni (from livejournal.com)]

What actually helped was that while it probably isn't meant to be written this way, El's genuine smugness about her relationship with Peter may be her biggest character flaw, and it informs her actions. So I'm not irritated with El for this episode. I'm irritated with the writer. New writer; he's dropped to the bottom of my list.
i have to ask this are you stating that it's a recent development in her character because of the writers?

because i've felt it has been there all the time..and i have always had mixed feelings about it..

Missing Diana and Sara too..:(

[tuppence1.livejournal.com]

"i have to ask this are you stating that it's a recent development in her character because of the writers?

because i've felt it has been there all the time..and i have always had mixed feelings about it..

Missing Diana and Sara too..:("

Oh no, not at all. I've thought that was the case since Payback. Notably, "Peter and me...we *work*," as the example quote. And mind you, Payback is in my top 5 of the series, and maybe top 3. So no, I've always felt it was there. But I also think that El's character needs it. She is too perfect otherwise. She is smart as hell, funny, patient with Peter's job and with Neal, beautiful, crafty as hell, and just generally awesome. I think she really needs this smugness flaw for balance. And it works with her character as written. I'm just not sure if the writers know that they're doing this.

(Diana and Sara. Sniff! And you know, I like Rebecca too. But she's in a different position.)

[meeni (from livejournal.com)]

Agree that it does work with her character.

I think the writers didn't wrote it down as flaw. Maybe it came naturally...

No one can replace Diana and Sara..i want their witty remarks back..Can't imagine a whole season without them

I dont see Rebecca as love interest for Neal ..because i can't figure her out ..

[virgo-79.livejournal.com]

I am so with you. I despised this episode because of that sexism, and I was really surprised and disappointed that WC handled this story so badly.

E;izabeth's "I think she must be lonely" comment and everything that followed was so offensive I'm still ready to spit nails over it. Firstly, because, yes, of course, an unmarried woman must be lonely and unfulfilled, and secondly, that's right, El, Peter is prefect, your marriage is perfect, and every other love out there is just a sad, ragged shade of what you have.

Then we had Peter's immediate freak out when Jill showed up, and his constant awkward behavior exacerbating the situation, despite the fact that the woman didn't show the least inclination to interact with him as anything but an agent and a friend who thought well of him. Jill never acted the least bit inappropriately, yet both Peter and El's perception of her made it so that she was seen as ex-girlfriend and sexual threat first, and FBI agent a distant second.

That ep just left a bad taste in my mouth.

I've *never* been this angry over an episode of this show before.

[countess-k.livejournal.com]

This was my favorite episode of the season so far. It almost reminded me of "Burke's Seven" where everyone was involved in the case in some way. Except Mozzie who wasn't much in the episode.

I liked El in the field. It bothers me when the only role she's given is the stay at home wife. Plus I couldn't help but to see this as part of my OT3 dreams coming true. Peter reunites with ex-girlfriend, his wife and boyfriend get jealous and follow him, they orchestrate a plan to rescue their shared hubby. I don't care if that's not what the writers had in mind, that's how I saw it.

I do like the importance they put on Agent Siegel's death and Peter's feelings about it, mainly because I anticipate Peter's horror to be so much greater when he finds out Neal was involved. Still I couldn't buy the way Peter talked about him in this episode, like they were that much closer than two people who had met only a couple of weeks before. I understand him feeling guilty since he was the one who called him to WC, but to talk about him like that? That I can only see him do when it comes to Neal.

Yeay for Rebecca. I like her and I like her getting involved with Neal. Let's hope she stays and doesn't become another Kate. I like how smart she is and how openly she likes Neal. You're right though, about him lying to her. But that just adds another layer to their story. I can't help but to see her as another crash and burn victim when the truth about Neal gets revealed. Oh poor budding romance. But that's Neal Caffrey for you.

Thank you for doing the episode dishes. It's an added goody to this wonderful show that I can't still get enough of.

[elrhiarhodan]

I enjoyed the episode, mostly for it's lack of Peter-Neal tension.

I agree that she's wasted as a character that just stays at home and is sweetly encouraging (like so much of S4, where I felt like she'd been replaced with a Stepford Wife). But I still think that letting her go into a hostage situation was not the wisest choice.

But it did work - like I said in the Dish, I think she wanted to prove that she's as good as Peter's old girlfriend.

And a hug and a big thank you for letting me know how much you enjoy the Dish. I had scaled back last night because I was so tired, but I did miss making all the squee of consciousness notes.

[meeni (from livejournal.com)]

I'm not liking Rebecca at all..It didn't happen with Kate, Alex , Sara ,Maya and even Sophie either


But i'm glad they are investigating Siegel's death..and it was a Peter centric episode. Didn't like or hate Jill so that's a plus

Elizabeth going in there was reckless and she could have get them all killed. but it's a show then

My fav scene has to be Neal and Jones reading the body language

[elrhiarhodan]

I like Rebecca - I just can't figure out if she's terminally goofy or if she has an angle (hoping for the angle).

I didn't hate Jill - for a few reasons.

1 - She was cast age-appropriately. She's an attractive woman who's very clearly Peter's age.
2 - She was sort of hung up on him, but not like she'd been pining all those years.
3 - She's smart. And like Peter, smart always gets me.

I just wish that the storyline had a little more depth - I would have liked it if she was wrong or bad. But that's not how WC plays, tbh.

[misagoddess.livejournal.com]

I'm kind of meh on this episode. I did not like Jill so that probably feeds into it. Other than that, I really like Rebecca but she needs to find out Neal is *not* an FBI agent and soon. Loved seeing Moz and El together and El and Neal working their mini scam as well. I like that they are taking Siegel's death seriously but Peter was not that close to him and it feels a little forced to me. He has reason to feel responsible for him but they don't need to manufacture a close relationship for that.

That aside, I am really enjoying this season.

[elrhiarhodan]

The case part of the episode was very much "meh", and while I didn't like Jill, I didn't hate her, either. I think mostly because she was cast age-appropriately. The actress had nice chemistry with Tim and I love any opportunity for Peter backstory.

I do agree that the conversation Peter and Jill had in the car about Siegel seemed forced - more because Siegel wasn't really there that long. I think it's more guilt than affection. I did "A" and "B" happened - it's not rational, but I get it.

[kerrylang.livejournal.com]

I liked the ep.

It's not top notch on my list, but it was a good Peter one and I like those center eps once in a while.

As for Willie directing: it's not that I dislike Mozzie but having an ep with a little less Mozzie after him being glued to Neal's hip for the entire season so far was really great. He can do that again instead of Tim, because I always miss Peter when Tim is directing.

I like Rebecca although I can't figure her out. Is she angel or devil?

As for El being jealous: I think it's normal. Their marriage is solid but Peter is attraktive and the women sometimes see him and flirt with him and back in season one El laughed about it. Now this old flame had her worried and that's okay. It's good for those sweet kiss scenes :D.

Well, Peter and Neal: I still miss their lightness, their friendly banter, their finishing each other's sentences. I know it's difficult in prospect what happened but I hope that we will get them back soon and not only in season 6, that is still in question. If the show ends after season 5 and them still being on that weird terms, I don't know if I will ever watch season 5 again.

[elrhiarhodan]

I agree - having a little less Mozzie is not a bad thing. Having no Mozzie is bad and too much Mozzie is bad, but sometimes, a little less Mozzie is good.

I'm with you - I miss the friendship between Peter and Neal and I hope that they find their way back to what's really important.

[car8.livejournal.com]

I liked a lot of this one, especially Neal being concerned about Peter, not about Jill, but about Seigel. Neal cares about Peter, and it showed.

I have a question about the Neal and Moz scene. At first I thought Moz was warning him about a relationship with Rebecca while she is their mark and they are using her and lying to her. But he brought up Kate and Alex and Sara. Is he saying Neal cannot ever date anyone because of past failures? If that's it, I don't like it for a best friend. If it's something else, I don't know what Moz meant.Anybody have a thought?

[elrhiarhodan]

I think Moz meant that Neal tends to get involved with woman he's conned (Kate), he's worked with/stolen from (Alex) or women who've tried to arrest him (Sara) - it was something that Moz had pointed out two eps previously.

And right now, Neal's relationship with Rebecca is founded on a huge lie - like his relationship with Kate. And Moz is wise enough to be troubled by that.

[angelita26]

First things first, I was distracted by the picture in Peter’s office that looks like a penis. It was pointed out on the commentary for Point Blank as it was hanging beside Neal’s head for the majority of a scene. And now it’s framed on the table (or window ledge?) behind Peter’s desk. WTH props department?

Re: Neal and Rebecca. It looks to me like he is just using her for the Codex info but she seems to be falling for him, and that bothers me. A lot. Not only his subterfuge, but the touching and the kissing look like they’re just acts on his part. I don’t know - I don’t feel like we’ve ever seen Neal fall for someone on-screen (I think most of the Neal falling for Sara stuff happened off-screen or more slowly), but he doesn’t look at Rebecca like he looks at Sara, like he looked when talking about Kate.

Re: Jones and Neal - Loved them working together and bringing down the guy with Siegel’s badge and gun. LOVED the scene where they were reading Peter in his office with Jill. I still miss Diana a lot, but I’m so glad we’re getting to see more of Jones this season.

Re: Peter and Siegel’s death. I really love that they’re exploring his feelings about it, especially since he specifically brought Siegel to the office. I’m glad that he finally started talking to El about it.

Re: the Codex. I don’t know what to make of it either as a storyline. I can only assume that it’s leading to a treasure of some kind and Neal will conveniently get there at the same time as Hagen and there will be a standoff. This is pure speculation, btw - there was pretty much nothing about the Codex in the casting sides IIRC.

Re: Cooper3? No idea, but can’t wait to find out!

[sinfulslasher]

Meh. Definitely not an ep I'm gonna rewatch (which is the first this season).

Still meh about Rebecca. Can't put my finger on it but she kinda rubs me the wrong way. Maybe it's the forced cutesy-dorky-nerdy thing they're pushing. Dunno. Plus, of course, the whole idea of her blooming relationship with Neal being based on a big fat lie. Sigh.

Jill. Good lord, WTF? She needs to not come back ever.She rubbed me the wrong way in every possible angle. Didn't see any reason why Peter was ever attracted to her at all. They didn't work as a couple. Sure, they might've changed since Quantico, but she was just awful. JMHO, of course. Then again, her snarky I'm-better-than-you aggressive way reminded me of Sara, so there's that. *wrinkles nose*

Loved the Neal & Jones scene, but that was it basically. Not sure what to make of El's scenes. I love her to death, and I did understand her reactions for the most part, but...getting involved in the case like that? Seriously?

At least we now officially know when Peter & Neal's anniversary is. Yay, jewelry! *g* We should celebrate! LOL!

[sheenianni.livejournal.com]

This episode... felt really flat with me. There wasn't anything I particularly hated, but neither anything I loved.

Jill really didn't work for me - I can't see why Peter was attracted to her. I suppose it's been stated that she's smart and super-capable, but we didn't actually see much of that on-screen (except for that scene near the end when she hit the baddie with a chair). If there has been less supposed flirting (which then wasn't flirting?) between Jill and Peter and more a show of why this woman was once so special to Peter, it would have worked much better.

Also, El repeatedly interphering with Peter's cases, despite not having any real experience (as either an aganet or a criminal)? One day, I hope it bites them in the ass.

Neal's romance with Rebecca would be sweet, except for the fact that Mozzie already mentioned: Kate. Alex. Sara. I really don't want Rebecca to be another name on his list of failed relationships.

Jones and Neal working together would make me squee if there was actually more of their shared screen time except for analyzing Jill (like in As You Were - that late-night conversation at Jones's place before his ex shows up is still one of my favorite). Mozzie telling El to follow Peter... didn't like it. I felt like because of the two cases going on, there wasn't proper focus on either of them.

I did like that we got another piece of the puzzle to Siegel's death and that it has been made significant.

I'm still not sure how I feel about the codex plotline...

I guess after this episode, I'm just wondering where the show is going with all of this. Is there a particular reason why we're repeatedly bashed in the head with the idea that El is having a hard time? What's with the codex? What's with Peter and all this sudden DC talk? Is Rebecca who she says she is?

I really miss Diana and Sara (and Hughes).

[miri-thompson.livejournal.com]

I'm largely in agreement with you. Heck, I refuse to let this whole season become part of my head canon. (Though I can accept Rebecca if things work out with her.)

[miri-thompson.livejournal.com]

Re the building: That's St. George's Episcopal Church in Stuyvesant Square. I saw them film there! (But mostly for an upcoming episode . . .)

[lauracollared.livejournal.com]

I love Rebecca and Neal. I don't care if she's working an angle, because so is he. And if they both come clean, and they still like each other (LIKE LIKE ;p), then great. Neal is falling HARD and it's based around a lie, just like with Kate, as you pointed out. Mozzie is right to be trying to stop him. But Neal loves. And Neal loves hard.

I *hate* everything about the El storyline. She has always been a little bit jealous, but the way she displayed it was thusly: I don't like Peter spending time with this woman. Peter loves me. I'm better than her anyway. I'm going to show Peter that I'm annoyed.
<< That came across as cute and funny b/c it put Peter in the doghouse and he had to make it up to her. Actually being worried about Peter being unfaithful to her?? GIVE ME A BREAK. Peter has never done anything to warrant that kind of mistrust. And her line about "but he is a man" is ridiculous. Elizabeth is way too smart and strong for that BS and it's not cool that the writers did this to her. Ugh, I hated it so much.

Also, Neal allowing her to go into that room? He would be way more protective of her and way more worried that Peter would kill him for letting her go in. That really pissed me off.

Also, Peter should have been really pissed at both Neal and El for being there, not just like "yay hug and kiss" and relief that everyone was ok. Gimme a break. Also that entire scene in the hotel room played out completely ridiculously. I feel bad that Willie had to direct such ludicrous writing.

I am really glad that Peter is upset and feeling guilty over Siegel. This is well-done.

I miss Diana. :(

Neal and Jones are so awesome together.

I'm so glad that Peter is being overt about his suspicions of Neal's actions.

Happy 1st Arrest Anniversary Boys!! <3

[virgo-79.livejournal.com]

Disliked this one intensely. I already had my rant on how sexist and offensive I found it above, so I won't go there again, but suffice it to say, I've never had an ep of this show make me so angry or leave me so offended and disappointed.

I don't like Rebecca, and I don't see any chemistry at all between her and Neal, so that whole thing is a big turn off for me. The passionate, geeky everywoman thing is not coming naturally, plus she has this permanently glazed-over aura. I can't tell if the character is off, and is herself playing a part andpputting up a front, and that's why it feels so phony, or if the actress is just doing a bad job with the role, but the performance is flat and off-putting, and the interaction between her and Neal is dull, at best, and icky, at worst. Because despite Mozzie's commentary on Neal's attraction to her, I've never seen anything that makes me believe he's genuinely attracted, so it comes across to me as either him further conning her, or him throwing her some kind of bone out of guilt over getting her fired, and either way, it's unappealing.

I liked the Neal&Jones scenes in this one, but that was about its only positive, for me. This one *really* rubbed me the wrong way.

[palombaggia.livejournal.com]

hello girls
coming late as always...France, you know the drill
Well...strange epi IMO
Lots of cute P/N slashy hmmm I'm not gonna say "subtext" because at that level you can't talk about subtext...I wish the writers would start to write normally again...guys, this is funny when it's "subtext" right? and not when it's so "on the nose" as we say in writing classes...but nevermind
Jill...I tend to agree with some of you..she was ok and smart and the right cast.
I don't think she's been pining for Peter all these years at all...I just think she really loved him when they were young..and when she sees him again after all these years..well, you know how it goes ( again, I think the poor writing here is to blame...). Seeing Peter Burke after 20 years just reminds her stuff..and I don't blame her ( Peter Burke is a GOOD SEXY LOOKING MAN).
Rebecca and Neal...ouch..I don't like this..at all. I just have a bad feeling about this relationship. I had this feeling from the start ( I just hope she doesn't die!). I like the actress though, she is a cutie.
And Siegel..can't wait to find out more about that!
yay for Jones and Neal moments!!!
And somebody has to write this WWII AU with P/N in Pearl Harbor. Ok? El? This is for you, right?
The world is waiting.
At least, I am
Hugs to you all

[ladyrose42.livejournal.com]

Chiming in at last. Just odds 'n ends.

Didn't Neal's arrest take place in the summer? Remember him wearing short sleeves and making comments about the van. And another WWII reference, the bombing of Pearl Harbour, just before the actual anniversary. Maybe cause my uncle was on one of the few boats to get out of the harbor. Then watching docu's this weekend.

Jill living out of her car. Surprised it wasn't broken into in NYC and she had cash in it too.

If Peter and El are so secure in their marriage, why is El so jealous? What happened in the past?? (Of course I realize plot devices and time elements are used to hurry everything along)

OK, I like Rebecca. Maybe it's her innocence or her love for the art world. The challenge is how to reveal Neal's true identity without disillusioning her fledging love interest. The debate on Neal's loves could go on forever.

The dissection discussions in the office pit with Neal/Jones and later Neal/EL were great. Later Neal/Jones in the care.