Post Ep Dish - 6.02 - Return to Sender
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elrhiarhodanOy, two down, four to go. *sob*
Don't know if this is going to be a stream-of-watching type Dish or something more thinky. I always enjoy putting down my immediate reactions, but I also can lose track of what's going one. Unlike Peter - I'm not so good at multitasking when White Collar is on the line.
Aww - Neal is very confused.
And I forgot to note last week, that Moz is canonically a lawyer. Umm, YAY? (Or seriously?)
Peter is very confused by Neal's attitude. Why?
Where I can I apply for the job of patting Neal down?
And there he is, our misunderstood bad boy. Or murdering psychopath. Take your pick. Didn't expect him to show up quite like that - isn't he supposed to be in jail? Well, I guess we'll find out why he's not after the commercial break.
Well, I guess that Keller's not blowing Neal's cover - at least not quite yet?
Ooh, new FBI character to play with. Love Peter sticking up for Neal - no holds barred. He knows his career is on the line, and he doesn't care because he needs to do what's right for Neal.
Peter emoting all over the place - BEAUTIFUL!!!!!!!
And Keller appears - like a pimple on prom night.
Love how Neal's playing Keller like a violin. And I have to wonder, how much of his talk about Peter is really a lie. It seems like he really feels that way - and it's unfair, because Peter wasn't the one who fucked Neal over.
But at least we know he doesn't trust Keller (but the eye-fucking in that scene was EPIC)
"I don't hink exhilerating and stamp have ever been used in such close proximity."
Peter and his dad - stamp collecting. Awwwww!!!!!!!
El is preggers and she's drinking? Or not.
Awww - Moz hugging El. So delighted!!!!!
"I have delivered a baby or two" Just precious and perfect. Moz could start his own daycare facility!
Love Jones here - "The African-American thing is a tip-off." And him calling Peter on the father-son relationship.
Okay - Peter in glasses. And gray hair. Peter in cheaters has been my fantasy since Season 1. Thank you, Wardrobe, for making this a reality.
And Peter's speech about "Nathaniel" is as much a set of half-truths as Neal's comments about Peter.
"Access to your wine collection is well worth the sacrifice of my principles" So very Mozzie! And how many times have I written that.
Love the banter between El and Peter - and her momentary horror when Neal calls her mom and dad.
And here's a bit of speculation - El loses the baby. I don't know why but I have the feeling that this is not to be. Whether it's this ep or the next one, it all feels too perfect. Like Rebecca/Rachel. And there's one thing that White Collar is not - it's treacly sweet happily ever after. Now, I may be wrong, but I just feel like this is where it's heading.
It's also not wishful thinking. It just feels like that storyline is heading for tragic ending.
Love the caper and Neal acting like a total douche...but did Peter call Neal "Neal" in a fairly loud voice at one point? There seems to be something off between them - even in their worst S3 moments, even with the assholeness of S5, it never felt this stilted.
And I don't like the tension between them in the office - Neal is acting like a spoiled, petulant child.
But he does have his reasons - and like a child, it's easiest to turn on the ones closes to you.
Oooh, so Keller's on a tracker. Interpol. Mutually assured destruction.
The scene between Peter and Neal in the kitchen - Peter so proud of the risks Neal took. Then presenting Neal with the signed contract. But not telling Neal that if they don't catch the Panthers, he's out of the Bureau. Typical Peter - protecting Neal from the worst of the consequences.
I don't really condone smoking in any form but the cigars were a nice callback to the end of Pilot, when Neal's smoking one of Hagen's Cubans and offers Peter one.
While I usually won't comment on the Dish about Next Week On… - the feeling that El's pregnancy ends gets even stronger. I don't know… I like them childless, but I want their happiness, too.
Overall reaction to the episode…
Very positive.
1 - Excellent caper that makes sense. How often do these capers seem like they're made out of damp toilet paper.
2 - Love love love the scene between El and Moz. El's moved home, she's unpacking, she's back. Love Peter nesting and being so excited and El not trying so hard to talk him down.
3 - The visuals this week were stunning. Neal in bad-boy clothes, Peter in glasses, both of them in tuxedos. Keller in skin tight leather.
But…
1 - There's no real discussion why Peter isn't in DC. Isn't Neal the least bit curious about that?
2 - Neal acting like a 7 year old denied a promised toy. This overt acting out seems out of character for him. The Neal I know and love would smile and pretend and work the angles.
3 - The episode feels like a bridge. Which isn't bad, but with only six eps in the season, it's kind of unfair.
Okay, flisties...share your thoughts. The thinky ones, the not-so-thinky ones, the anger and the rage and the disappointment. Or the joy and flaily appreciation (for the glasses, the bad-boy clothes, the return of everyone's favorite villain). Whatever floats your boat, say it here!
Don't know if this is going to be a stream-of-watching type Dish or something more thinky. I always enjoy putting down my immediate reactions, but I also can lose track of what's going one. Unlike Peter - I'm not so good at multitasking when White Collar is on the line.
Aww - Neal is very confused.
And I forgot to note last week, that Moz is canonically a lawyer. Umm, YAY? (Or seriously?)
Peter is very confused by Neal's attitude. Why?
Where I can I apply for the job of patting Neal down?
And there he is, our misunderstood bad boy. Or murdering psychopath. Take your pick. Didn't expect him to show up quite like that - isn't he supposed to be in jail? Well, I guess we'll find out why he's not after the commercial break.
Well, I guess that Keller's not blowing Neal's cover - at least not quite yet?
Ooh, new FBI character to play with. Love Peter sticking up for Neal - no holds barred. He knows his career is on the line, and he doesn't care because he needs to do what's right for Neal.
Peter emoting all over the place - BEAUTIFUL!!!!!!!
And Keller appears - like a pimple on prom night.
Love how Neal's playing Keller like a violin. And I have to wonder, how much of his talk about Peter is really a lie. It seems like he really feels that way - and it's unfair, because Peter wasn't the one who fucked Neal over.
But at least we know he doesn't trust Keller (but the eye-fucking in that scene was EPIC)
"I don't hink exhilerating and stamp have ever been used in such close proximity."
Peter and his dad - stamp collecting. Awwwww!!!!!!!
El is preggers and she's drinking? Or not.
Awww - Moz hugging El. So delighted!!!!!
"I have delivered a baby or two" Just precious and perfect. Moz could start his own daycare facility!
Love Jones here - "The African-American thing is a tip-off." And him calling Peter on the father-son relationship.
Okay - Peter in glasses. And gray hair. Peter in cheaters has been my fantasy since Season 1. Thank you, Wardrobe, for making this a reality.
And Peter's speech about "Nathaniel" is as much a set of half-truths as Neal's comments about Peter.
"Access to your wine collection is well worth the sacrifice of my principles" So very Mozzie! And how many times have I written that.
Love the banter between El and Peter - and her momentary horror when Neal calls her mom and dad.
And here's a bit of speculation - El loses the baby. I don't know why but I have the feeling that this is not to be. Whether it's this ep or the next one, it all feels too perfect. Like Rebecca/Rachel. And there's one thing that White Collar is not - it's treacly sweet happily ever after. Now, I may be wrong, but I just feel like this is where it's heading.
It's also not wishful thinking. It just feels like that storyline is heading for tragic ending.
Love the caper and Neal acting like a total douche...but did Peter call Neal "Neal" in a fairly loud voice at one point? There seems to be something off between them - even in their worst S3 moments, even with the assholeness of S5, it never felt this stilted.
And I don't like the tension between them in the office - Neal is acting like a spoiled, petulant child.
But he does have his reasons - and like a child, it's easiest to turn on the ones closes to you.
Oooh, so Keller's on a tracker. Interpol. Mutually assured destruction.
The scene between Peter and Neal in the kitchen - Peter so proud of the risks Neal took. Then presenting Neal with the signed contract. But not telling Neal that if they don't catch the Panthers, he's out of the Bureau. Typical Peter - protecting Neal from the worst of the consequences.
I don't really condone smoking in any form but the cigars were a nice callback to the end of Pilot, when Neal's smoking one of Hagen's Cubans and offers Peter one.
While I usually won't comment on the Dish about Next Week On… - the feeling that El's pregnancy ends gets even stronger. I don't know… I like them childless, but I want their happiness, too.
Overall reaction to the episode…
Very positive.
1 - Excellent caper that makes sense. How often do these capers seem like they're made out of damp toilet paper.
2 - Love love love the scene between El and Moz. El's moved home, she's unpacking, she's back. Love Peter nesting and being so excited and El not trying so hard to talk him down.
3 - The visuals this week were stunning. Neal in bad-boy clothes, Peter in glasses, both of them in tuxedos. Keller in skin tight leather.
But…
1 - There's no real discussion why Peter isn't in DC. Isn't Neal the least bit curious about that?
2 - Neal acting like a 7 year old denied a promised toy. This overt acting out seems out of character for him. The Neal I know and love would smile and pretend and work the angles.
3 - The episode feels like a bridge. Which isn't bad, but with only six eps in the season, it's kind of unfair.
Okay, flisties...share your thoughts. The thinky ones, the not-so-thinky ones, the anger and the rage and the disappointment. Or the joy and flaily appreciation (for the glasses, the bad-boy clothes, the return of everyone's favorite villain). Whatever floats your boat, say it here!
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Date: 2014-11-14 01:09 pm (UTC)Oh god, the Burkes losing a baby would hurt so much. For them and us.
Keller is going to ruin this thing for Neal, mark my words.
I don't know why this episode left me uneasy. Usually, White Collar episodes leave me happy for quite a while, but this one just... nope. Didn't last past the credits. Maybe it's Neal's wonky character, like you said (which may not be quite so out of character. See Neal's words about people like Keller getting so desperate that they don't notice the ground shifting beneath them. Both ominous and possibly already true. Neal's never had so much at stake for the sake of his freedom. Earlier, it was a commutation hearing, a request passed up through official channels. Now, it's quite literally in his hands. And I don't think he trusts himself with it. And his freedom being in his grasp has to have had an effect on him.)
...parenthetical remark got out of hand. Maybe I should turn that into a fic.
So, like I was saying. Maybe it's Neal's character. Maybe it's the relative absence of Diana (I don't recall seeing her much, correct me if I'm wrong.) Maybe it's just me and my wonky moods as of late. But this episode doesn't feel right.